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THE END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT

Let me start this post with an assertion: I don't support sodomy laws. They're a bad, ineffective way for society to express its view of homosexual relationships. Unenforceable laws have no place on the books, and sodomy laws are largely unenforceable. There are ways they might be enforced that do not entail policing bedrooms--undercover operations targeting gay bars and pick-up joints, that sort of thing, and up until the late 60s and early 70s that is how such laws were enforced. If they were enforced--enforcement efforts varied around the country from fairly robust to no effort at all. But sending undercover cops into gay bars and hangouts is a very negative way to deal with homosexuality, even supposing society had the will to. It takes precious police manpower away from enforcing more urgent matters, to say nothing of the strange and dangerous situations undercover gay patrols might find themselves experiencing. So for a host of reasons, I'm with Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas in this week's decision--sodomy laws are in his words "uncommonly silly," but that doesn't give the Supreme Court the authority to strike them down. This week's decision in the Lawrence case is clearly judicial overreach, and will have sweeping consequences. It's not the end of the world, just the end of the world as we have known it for thousands of years.

I predict within five years, gay marriage will be a reality across the United States, overturning the definition of marriage Western society has embraced for millenia. The logic of the USSC's majority makes it inevitable. With gay marriage will come polyamorous marriage, within a few years, following the same logic. With these redefinitions of marriage will come, in a few years, gay and polyamorous divorces, and wrenching custody disputes over children and assets. Corporations will have to come to terms with these new arrangements for the purpose of determining health and retirement benefits, so expect many corporations to just cut or dramatically reduce their liability by gutting their benefit packages. Children caught up in all this will be raised in the most confusing circumstances imaginable--multiple fathers or mothers, biological parents they have never met (because gay adoption gets a boost now, as will surrogate births and various other means by which gay couples may have or obtain children), the works. The American family, for a small minority and in the eyes of the law, will become a house of mirrors.

That's only one part of the problem I see from this week's ruling. The other problem is what it will mean for the church.

Most churches today frown on the homosexual lifestyle. Where the Bible addresses homosexuality, it condemns it, and most churches rightly take their moral cues from the Bible. It is Christianity's foundational text. This week's ruling, because it is so sweeping, will open the door to lawsuits aimed at ending churches' "discrimination" against practicing homosexuals. Here's the form I expect it to take. A young man will graduate from a mainstream, well-respected seminary, probably in a conservative, evangelical denomination. He will be gay, but in the closet throughout his time in seminary. Upon graduation, he will apply for a job in a church, probably not as pastor (young seminarians tend to hit the lower ranks first) but as minister of music or youth pastor, or maybe associate pastor in a mid-sized or larger church. He will be qualified in every way--except that he will have also come out of the closet during the interview process. The church will not hire him, and he will sue it for discriminating against him. He'll lose, but that won't matter. He will have sent the church's denomination a message, and cost the local church a fortune (the ACLU or Human Rights Campaign will pick up his tab). The local church, if it is small enough, may close down as the case drags on and saps its funds. The denomination's hierarchy will look at its bylaws at the behest of its lawyers to see if there are ways to prevent future liability. More liberal denominations will change their bylaws and allow practicing homosexuals to enter its ministry force. In so doing they'll remove their legal liability, but at the expense of doctrine. More evangelical churches--those most hated by the gay rights lobbies--will not change, and will be sued repeatedly. It will take just one victory and the gay rights movement will have conquered the Christian church in America.

It might also take the form of a request for marriage. A gay couple will approach a pastor to request his services in a marriage ceremony, or they may just request the church's facilities. Perhaps it's a historic church, or the church where one of the couple's parents married years ago. The pastor will decline the request on doctrinal grounds, and get sued. Again, the gay couple will lose the case but win the war: The church will spend a fortune to defend itself, and it may end up changing its stance to deflect future liability. The church will lose in the press, which will demonize it and its pastor for their "intolerance."

Think it can't happen? There is already a lawsuit working its way through the courts demanding that the Catholic Church accept female priests. Gays already went after the Boy Scouts, taking them all the way to the Supreme Court to demand that the Scouts allow gay troop leaders. The Scouts won that case, but are losing the war that has followed as city after city pulls financial and other support and the press continues to browbeat them. Churches don't have the public-private model that the Scouts until recently enjoyed, but they do have members who are public figures. Those public figures will be called out to go on the record about such cases, and many will cave. Others will pander and join up with the plaintiffs. Churches will split over the issue.

In short, I think this week's ruling has opened the door to a wave of courtroom persecution, redefining marriage and ending the world as we know it.
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Posted by B. Preston on June 27, 2003 6:26 AM
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Bryan, while I agree with you on the sum of your observations on the ramifications that the SCOTUS’ ruling on sodomy law will have on our society at large and churches more specifically, I would like to interject that I don’t believe the homosexual advocacy groups and lobbies will ever conquer the church, in America or anywhere else. As a christian, I understand from scripture the relationship that Christ has with his church and how he protects, nourishes, and works through it as his agent to reach out to our world. Indeed, the homosexual advocacy groups and lobbies will prove to be excessively mettlesome in how churches conduct their affairs, and some will be forced to close their doors as a result of the expenses of defending themselves, consequently sending their displaced members to larger congregations. This will be unfortunate and it saddens my heart to know it is inevitbale. But I take comfort in knowing that Christ’s church will, by His spirit, OVERCOME.

Posted by Brent on June 27, 2003 11:21 AM

“There is already a lawsuit working its way through the courts demanding that the Catholic Church accept female priests.” I’m pretty sure it was dismissed. Of course, that was only the first attempt.

Conquering the church in America isn’t the same thing as conquering the Church. The first can happen—seems to be happening. The latter never will.

Last I heard, the female priest plaintiff’s case had been stopped but she was promising to retool and come back with a better lawyer or something. What she needs is a better brain—I heard her on the radio, and she definitely isn’t the sharpest weapon in the culture wars.

I think the notion that allowing homosexuality somehow hurts traditional families and prevents child-bearing is silly. Does anyone think that the average person out there makes a logical choice on this? One is either gay or straight, or some combination thereof. I am straight, married, and with children. This was not due to my consideration of the anti-sodomy laws or of any moral imperatives. Will more people ‘become’ gay if all anti-sodomy laws are struck from the books? No way! The pool of people who label themselves as ‘homosexuals’ is mutually exclusive from those who label themselves ‘heterosexual’. What do sodomy laws have to do with ‘migrating’ people from the former to the latter categories? In my opinion - nothing. Will an anti-sodomy law prevent people from becoming homo-sexuals? No way! They will simply be criminalized and forced to go underground. Is this what we want to happen in the US?

Posted by Gene on June 27, 2003 3:58 PM

Not the end of the world. Certainly the end of pretense and fence-sitting for some large organizations. Every member has his “That’s it; I’ve had it” point, and this will hit that point for many people.

In the long run, splitting and competition are healthy. For instance, the Campfire Girls have been offering a more normal alternative to the radical feminist Girl Scouts for 30 years, with considerable success. (And yes, GSA’s national office is just as radical as the YWCA, though it’s not as well-known.)

I wouldn’t be surprised if Campfire branches out to offer boys a normal scouting experience, now that BSA has buckled to the “Brights”.

Posted by ockham on June 27, 2003 8:06 PM

“In short, I think this week’s ruling has opened the door to a wave of courtroom persecution, redefining marriage and ending the world as we know it.”

One comment, one question:
1) You sound as fatalistic and victimized as the gay community and other persecuted minorities have sounded. Now, it seems, you have something in common.
2) How sad that your life and your world is so determined by the gay agenda. How can something so far removed from your reality have such power over you?

The government is already meddling in church affairs. Many churches would like to perform same-sex unions; unfortunately, the government prevents any legal recognition of such unions. A fair system would allow each church to marry those only those couples they saw fit. Sure, some churches would only see fit to marry heterosexual couples—hell, maybe some churches would forbid heterosexual marriage and only allow gay couples to marry. But who cares? You don’t have to join that church if you don’t want to.

I agree with Santorum and Scalia that civil recognition of same-sex unions is now inevitable. However, churches have survived this long within a society which does not codify every doctrine as civil law.

Will civil recognition of gay marriage somehow “force” churches to change their doctrine regarding homosexuality? Probably about as much as Roe v. Wade “forced” churches to change their doctrine regarding abortion. Last time I checked, churches were still free to believe and to teach that abortion is murder.

Posted by Brandon on June 28, 2003 1:28 AM

Mr. Preston’s predictions are correct. The slippery slope of decadence is an historical fact that is easily traced, with the gay-driven Beatnik movement of the late Fifties its chief expeditor. We were doomed by the end of the Sixties.

To deny that this ruling will not lead to gay marriages (as I heard O’Reilly deny the other day) is foolhardy. And to deny that openness toward perversion doesn’t increase that perversion is equally foolhardy. I grew up during the Sixties and watched effeminacy among boys and men go from rare to common. Why? Something in the water? Today my grade-schooler understands what “gay” means, and knows pre-teen boys who think being gay is a valid future choice.

Gay marriages (see Sowell’s article for non-religious clarity on this issue: http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts000323.shtml) are on their way, and churches that do not participate will be demonized. We are already being primed to tone down our opposition to pedophilia and polygamy. Sexuality has become the chief component of a large part of everything we do, and since it has the capacity to fulfill on a temporal level, it must be reconfigured by way of perversion to perpetuate the illusion that happiness is close at hand. In the future (whether sooner or later) sex will take on forms we can’t begin to imagine, all in the effort to find satisfaction for the dying soul of man. Man will no longer be a noble being, but purely a sexual being. This will turn him into something less than an animal.

>to say nothing of the strange and dangerous situations undercover gay patrols might find themselves experiencing.

Does an undercover officer in a gay bar wear his uniform?

Have a fun afternoon

Posted by Kyle B on June 28, 2003 11:37 AM

> Does an undercover officer in a gay
> bar wear his uniform?

Only on uniform night.

Posted by Brandon on June 28, 2003 4:53 PM

“With gay marriage will come polyamorous marriage, within a few years”

Cool!

My wife probably won’t go along…

A.M., there probably is no greater percentage of gays today than ever before, there are just more of them out of the closet. It amazes me when Christians talk about Christian love. I don’t consider such intolerance to be love. No, I’m not gay, I just have more love for my fellow man than intolerant Christians.

Posted by Herb Schaffler on August 27, 2003 4:56 PM
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