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Has anyone out there ever actually been around real, live drunken sailors? I ask, because there's a meme going around now that Sen. John McCain shouldn't have insulted drunken sailors by suggesting that the Bush administration is spending money in a fashion reminiscent of inebriated seamen, because at least such men (and women, one supposes) are actually spending their own money. The Bush administration's free-spending ways tap into your funds, my funds, everyone's funds, and comparing them to drunken sailors does a disservice to drunken sailors, or so says the meme.

Maybe we need some sort of national service program, or some way to get more people who opine for a living or on blogs in contact with actual sailors. Because no one who has been around real drunken sailors would say that at least drunken sailors just spend their own money. Nothing could be further from the truth.

A few years ago, I was in the US Air Force but out to sea with the USS Blue Ridge. She's a fine ship, a floating command center complete with a mini-NORAD type room from which to conduct theatre-level combined operations. Blue Ridge is the flagship of the Seventh Fleet, so much a showplace that the sailors who call her home joke that her designation, LCC-19, doesn't refer to her landing, command and control capabilities, but to the fact that officers always say to the crew "Let's continue cleaning, 19 hours a day." It's not all that witty, but you get the point.

I accompanied Blue Ridge to the Japanese port of Nagasaki on her first visit there, ever. The city that Truman nuked welcomed the high-level US Navy presence with mostly open arms--a regatta of fishing vessels, a small fleet of helicopters, and even a brass band greeted us as we pulled in. Yeah, there were a dozen or so protestors, enough for CNN to label a Million Man March or something, but nothing really unusual. Looking back, the protestors were probably North Korean dupes anyway.

After we pulled in, some sailors I'd been hanging out with for the three day cruise down invited me to roam the city with them. I took them up on it, having no idea what I was getting myself in for. I forgot about the whole drunken sailor thing, but the boys reminded me of it before long.

After walking around and around Nagasaki, night crept in and we set up camp in a sushi bar. That was my idea, thinking that Nagasaki's reputation for fresh sushi must be put to the test. While enjoying the fresh toro, the shrimp, the works, a TV behind the barkeep showed news video of our arrival. We reacted and the patrons started asking us if we were from the ship. We said we were, and rivers of sake began to flow our way. The patrons and owner were happy to have us there, happy to get to know us, and apparently happy to get us smashed.

I'm not the drinking type, so I never touched the tide of alcohol that washed over us. But I observed that the more sake my compatriots consumed, and it was top drawer hootch, the more money they spent. Soon they'd run out of their own, and were spending mine. Meanwhile, the patrons kept volunteering more Asahi biru, more sake, more of anything liquid the sailors wanted. One tipsy sailor started massively hitting on a female patron, to such an extent that she began to get nervous. I halted the proceedings with a word or two, which got shrugged off but did their job.

Yeah, I was being a bit of a killjoy, but I also probably stopped an international incident. During our stroll back to the ship, which included several detours and backtracks while my affected friends tried to pretend sobriety, we witnessed a sailor getting arrested for something, and another riding a bicycle down the middle of a major thoroughfare, against the traffic. He was lucky that there was little traffic at that hour, or he'd have been a casualty of the friendship port call.

The moral of the story, if there is one, is this: Drunken sailors do not limit themselves to spending their own money, contrary to the current meme bouncing around the 'sphere. They'll spend their cash until they run out, then they'll either reach for the plastic money in their wallets or for the green money in yours if you happen to be with them. They'll also happily indulge in anything that anyone wants to buy for them. I think the Nagasaki sushi bar's chief patron must have spent several hundred dollars soaking American sailors that night, and the other patrons chipped in healthy amounts too.

All of which does describe how the Bush administration has been throwing around money on non-defense spending. They have been spending like drunken sailors out on the town, or at least like the drunken sailors that I hung out with in Nagasaki.

The sushi was unbelievably good, btw, the type that just melts in your mouth.

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Having been a Marine on a Med cruise (LPH-2, U.S.S. Iwo Jima), I pretty much concur with your assessment. Having also been on Shore Patrol, I prevented a few international incidents as well.

Posted by S3 on December 2, 2003 7:07 PM

That’s a prety humourous story, Bryan! Off-topic, what are your thoughts on uni (sea urchin)? I like just about every other kind of sushi and sashimi, but uni is something I just can’t stomach.

It’s taste and texture was once described to me as “fish peanut butter” and that’s more or less exactly what it is.

Posted by Chris Taylor on December 3, 2003 8:20 AM

As a veteran of the seagoing service myself and having been stationed in Japan as well, I can relate very well to your experiences. I have to concur that you are spot on with your analysis. On matters of foreign policy and dealing with the U.N., I am very proud of my President. But I am growing weary of seeing him and his fellow republicans in congress going on the spending sprees with our hard earned dollars. Perhaps he sees his tax cut as a means of stimulating growth in the economy, and thereby pumping up the size of the federal coffers to help cover the new expenses. Since I’m not very good at analyzing Washington politics, I can only speculate.

Posted by Brent on December 3, 2003 9:00 AM

Re uni—can’t stomach the stuff. Fish peanut butter is about the best description I’ve heard. Yech!

Re spending—I think I have an answer. In the months after 9-11, I started noticing that the administration had a tendency to move left on domestic spending issues (not core moral issues, but side issues that came down to spending more money) while staying the course on the war and on the core GOP issues such as abortion, etc. I asked someone close to the administration was going on. I asked why the Bush team tended to give away the store on things like the education bill, etc, when it was pretty clear that the GOP base would not be happy about it. The response I got—and this particular person is very close to the President—was that the leftish moves were calculated to make some peace with the Dems on domestic issues and thereby, theoretically, nudge them into more support for the war and for Bush generally. The hope was that the moves would help keep the country’s elected leadership united in the face of what could be a very divisive war, and help ensure that Bush broadened his appeal for a second term.

I think the goal was laudable, but the method was unsound. The Dems seem to have taken the view that they can oppose the war, or waffle around on it, but still get what they want on domestic issues anyway. They seem to think that they can accuse Bush of just about anything and get away with it, because he will never call them out on it. In essence, they see him as perhaps too strong on foreign affairs for the nation’s own good (I obviously disagree with them on that, for what it’s worth), but paradoxically very weak (by his own choice) on domestic affairs, and thus have adopted a strategy of moving further and further left because their base is moving that way, and because they are getting to move domestic issues further left than they expected they could with a Republican in the White House. So basically, the Bush admin wanted to move left to make peace, but just got more division and political warfare as a result. As long as his approval rating remains high and the war continues we can expect the Bush admin to keep up the big spending, unless deficits become a political issue anyway.

I do look at the Medicare issue as slightly different, though. On that, I think Bush and the GOP are acknowledging that there is a majority that supports prescription drug benefits and therefore it’s good politics (though lousy principle) to establish another entitlement. They did seem to try and push Medicare toward some market reforms, though, so they didn’t just sell out. I would have rather seen them oppose prescription drugs on principle, but at least they didn’t just create another big government program without any heed to the market. Over time, the Medicare bill may actually get more market involvement in health care, which would be a good thing.

Posted by Bryan on December 3, 2003 9:51 AM

Hell yeah on drunken sailors! You were lucky you were on the Japan port of call… any other country and they would have been out whore calling. Japan is just too expensive and closed to let anything other than Japanese have their whores. Needless to say, it purged my system.

re. Spending money. While your experience shows that drunken sailors will indeed spend anyones money, it’s important to note that the money spent on them by others was voluntary. The extra spending was not induced by enforcement personnel backed by a prison system. A patron could choose to not support the sailors drinking and would leave unmolested. Try doing that when Congress demands your money or your life.

Posted by Jay Stermer on December 5, 2003 9:55 AM
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