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Arguing in the alternative--Clarke says the Times was just Blowing Smoke

Here’s Richard Clarke and Roger Cressey in the New York Times:
Privacy rights advocates, with whom we generally agree, have lumped this bank-monitoring program with the alleged National Security Agency wiretapping of calls in which at least one party is within the United States as examples of our government violating civil liberties in the name of counterterrorism. The two programs are actually very different. Any domestic electronic surveillance without a court order, no matter how useful, is clearly illegal. Monitoring international bank transfers, especially with the knowledge of the bank consortium that owns the network, is legal and unobjectionable. … These initiatives, combined with treaties and international agreements, should leave no one with any presumption of privacy when moving money electronically between countries.

I bolded that part because it moots the argument that privacy interests were implicated by the Swift program. If there is no expectation of privacy in a transaction or communication, no warrant is necessary. It’s public knowlege. And it’s basic 4th Amendment stuff. The police can get your credit card records without a warrant, because you were willing to share them with the credit card company. The police can get a list of who you call on the phone, because you’re willing to share that information with the phone company (as opposed to tapping the content of the conversation itself, which does require a warrant.) No harm, say C&C; no foul.

C&C also speculate that President Bush’s reaction to the Timeses’ disclosure is a Rovian electoral calculation, and the value of the program is not that we catch terrorists with it, but that we make it more difficult for them to move money. C&C wonder whether “… the press [should] really be called unpatriotic by the administration, and even threatened with prosecution by politicians, for disclosing things the terrorists already assumed?” As Allahpundit points out, however, they ignore the fact that Hambali the Bali Bomber was caught because of information gathered through precisely this surveillance of his SWIFT transactions.

I am just fascinated that the Times thought running this piece was a good idea. Because it amounts to a repudiation of some the fundamental premises of James Risen and Eric Lichtblau’s original reporting.

Remember, this was supposedly a “secret” program. Hush-hush, nobody knows, classified—hence the title of R&L’s piece “Bank Data Secretly Reviewed by U.S. to Fight Terror”. They also have a caption to a picture there that says “Data provided by the program helped identify Uzair Paracha, a Brooklyn man who was convicted on terrorism-related charges in 2005, officials said.” But don’t pay attention to that right now. We’re arguing in the alternative.

Which we will continue to do below the jump…

CONTINUED: See, the point of Risen and Lichtblau’s “bombshell” here is that this is a clandestine program and a closely-guarded secret. That’s why they say things like how the program “stirred concerns inside the administration about legal and privacy issues.” But of course that’s absurd. Everyone knows, according to Richard Clarke, that international transfers are monitored, and has for a long time.

Likewise, when Risen and Lichtblau report that “Officials described the Swift program as the biggest and most far-reaching of several secret efforts to trace terrorist financing,” that’s kind of, well, a lie because it was never secret at all. Everybody knew about it, right? Or when “Swift executives have been uneasy at times about their secret role,” they’re just being paranoid because everyone knows international wire transfers are, as my law-talkin’ friends might put it, “pervasively regulated” and therefore their role isn’t secret at all.

Or a little later, when they say that “While the banking program is a closely held secret, administration officials have conducted classified briefings” to Congress, they really mean that “the program is wide open, that everybody pretty much knows about it, like Valerie Plame being a spy.” Or when they point out that
In terrorism prosecutions, intelligence officials have been careful to “sanitize,” or hide the origins of evidence collected through the program to keep it secret…
…one wonders why they even bother. Because everyone knew about this all along. Why, it was mentioned in a UN Report in 2002, right? And we know that Al-Qaeda’s research division spends its time reading through every exciting financial document that the U.N. churns out.

And I’m puzzled by this line: “By 2003, the cooperative’s officials were discussing pulling out because of their concerns about legal and financial risks if the program were revealed, one government official said.”

What’s the problem? Why could they possibly worry if this non-secret, well-known program came out that just reported information everybody knew was public knowledge anyway came out? Everyone would just say, well, of course we all knew that, so what’s the big deal, Lucille?

And indeed that’s the strange thing about Richard Clarke’s op-ed appearing in the Times. As Patterico already noted, the Timeses are aware they’ve shot themselves in the foot with their disclosure. Now Richard Clarke is downplaying both the significance and the secrecy of their findings. Strange, huh? A paper that has won Pulitzers for its past exposures of American military and intelligence secrets, suddenly eager to publish someone saying, “Oh, this? It’s no big deal. Really. Wasn’t that big a secret. Hell, my grandmother knows SWIFT monitors international terror-linked financial transactions and shares the information with the CIA!”

In fact, if Clarke and Cressley are right about this, Lichtblau and Risen grossly exaggerated how secret the program really was.

Now personally, I think Clarke is a pretty smart guy, but he’s wrong. I think it was an extremely effective terrorist fighting tool, one that captured some very, very bad guys who obviously didn’t think they’d get caught when they wired money around the globe. Even if they suspected a transaction might be monitored, they occasionally chose to risk a transfer now and then because they didn’t understand it and they thought they could get away with it. I think the program was effective precisely because it was secret, and the Timeses went and ruined it in a fit of self-absorbed hubris that aids our enemies and makes Americans less safe.

But how will they respond to Clarke and Cressley? The New York Times can’t have its cake and eat it, too. Will Keller, Times, and Lichtblau continue to insist that the program was both effective and secret, and the story was a major Pulitzer-worthy scoop? Or will they continue backpedaling?

If they want to try to weasel out of this, let’s see it right there on the corrections page: “Importance and Secrecy of SWIFT Monitoring Program Greatly Exaggerated”. We might not believe them, but if they want to back away from the story, they should go all out. Otherwise the notion that they have traitorously decided (again) to help the terrorists by revealing a successful and legal program will persist, and it will continue to gather strength.

To be cross-posted at Patterico’s Pontifications.

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Posted by SeeDubya on July 1, 2006 7:13 PM
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Americans really should not be shocked by the anti-American attitude and treasonous behavior of modern-day journalists. It’s not new. The anti-American attitude and treasonous behavior of modern-day journalists was on full public display almost immediately after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. Many journalists in America’s “mainstream media” have been on the wrong side of the war since “Day One.”

After the World Trade Center attack on September 11, 2001, journalists from the Reuters international news service refused to describe Osama bin Laden and his murderous disciples as “terrorists.” The journalists pointed to the official Reuters editorial policy, which stated: “As part of a long-standing policy to avoid the use of emotive words, we do not use terms like terrorist.” But the definition of the word “terrorist” is: “A person who uses or favors violent and intimidating methods of coercing a government or community.” The term is clearly descriptive, not “emotive.”

In the United States, ABC News barred its journalists from wearing American flag lapel pins because it didn’t want to be seen taking sides in the War on Terror. An ABC News spokesman said: “We cannot signal how we feel about a cause, even a justified and just cause, through some sort of outward symbol.”

In February 2003, just before the American invasion and liberation of Iraq, CBS News aired an interview with Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, the despicable mass murderer, torturer of women and children, and supporter of international terrorism. Many Americans scratched their heads during the televised interview, wondering what could possibly be learned about Saddam that wasn’t already known, and why they should believe anything that Saddam had to say. At the end of the interview, CBS News anchorman Dan Rather told Saddam: “I would very much like to see you in the future, Mr. President.”

On April 13, 2004, during a nationally televised presidential press conference, viewers across the country were astonished to hear members of the American press corps ask repeatedly whether or not President George W. Bush thought he should apologize for the tragedy of 9/11. The questions included: “Do you feel a sense of personal responsibility for September 11, 2001?” and “Do you believe the American people deserve an apology from you, and would you be prepared to give them one?” The president responded: “Here’s what I feel about that. The person responsible for the attacks was Osama bin Laden. That’s who’s responsible for killing Americans.”

Modern-day American journalists seem to have difficulty choosing the side of right over the side of wrong, the side of good over the side of evil: They even have difficulty showing loyalty to their own countrymen. During World War II, American journalists understood the meaning of “Loose Lips Sink Ships.” Today, many American journalists don’t.

“Ernie Pyle, we miss you!”

I just want to point out what I think is a factual error here, in that your credit card activity and phone activity most certainly does have an expectation of privacy and at least in terms of domestic activity, law enforcement most certainly does need a warrant. Other than that, I agree.

Posted by Dave on July 2, 2006 8:26 PM

Dave, Where did people get the idea that information that they give to total strangers, ie., private companies like credit card companies and the phone company are “private”?

“Privacy” is what happens in the “privacy” of my own home, not in commercial transactions with strangers.

Seems pretty ludicrous to me.

I sent this to the NYT. I don’t expect much of a response, but maybe your readers will be interested. Now let me get this straight. In your article Secrecy, Security, the President and the Press, you seem to imply that secrecy has no place in the Executive branch. Everything should be decided by Congress because there is the potential for the Executive branch running roughshod over American’s constitutional rights. (Can you give me me some examples where the potential has been converted into legally recognizable misdeeds by the Bush administration ?) (Is there a possibility that the Legistrative branch might do the same thing ?) Okay, where in the Constitution do you find that the press can decide what’s classified or not (and at what level ?) and that (maybe) a lot of people know it(so what!), but if they do, it shouldn’t be classified ? (To my knowledge, only the President or the classifying agency can change the classification of information ). Has the Executive branch run roughshod over American’s constitutional rights? (Note that most terrorist financiers are not American). (Is there a possibility that the Legistrative branch might do the same thing ?) Could we have a few examples ? Ignore Bill Clinton and Sandy Berger. When I was working in the Defense industry, I signed an oath that I would not (under any circumstances Should Julius and Ethel Rosenberg be forgiven because they were reporting to that nice Marxist organization, the Soviet Union ? They had good intentions, World Peace, so what was the problem ? I am becoming increasingly frustrated that Liberals perceive the World as requiring greater and greater regulation ( preferably through the United Nations - what a track record), but, of course, the regulations don’t apply to them. These people have risen above the necessity for regulation by their own assessment -what better assessment could you ask for? So I don’t buy - 1) the Bush administration’s unusually harsh attacks - The NYT attacked the Bush administration; response not harsh enough 2) NYT exposing a secret banking-data surveillance program (they knew it was secret, accessory to the the fact, treason) a) that was perfectly legal - you have proof otherwise? b) hardly a secret - thanks to the NYT c) was working - you have have proof otherwise ? 3) maybe some of the terrorist financiers knew of the potential - so what? maybe some didn’t. a) A former State Department official who has served on a United Nations counter-terrorism group pointed to a 2002 United Nations report noting that the United States was monitoring international financial transactions. Swift and similar organizations were mentioned in the publicly available report, although there were no details. “The United States has begun to apply new monitoring techniques to spot and verify suspicious transactions,” the report noted. Let’s ask was the former State Department official a Clinton appointee? What has the United Nations counter-terrorism group accomplished ? What has this individual accomplished ? b) Was the revelation of the project helpful to the Executive branch in improving the results ? Was it helpful to anyone, other than the NYT and the terrorists ? c) “Since then, the Treasury Department has produced dozens of news releases and public reports detailing its efforts. Though officials appear never to have mentioned the Swift program, they have repeatedly described their cooperation with financial networks to identify accounts held by people and organizations linked to terrorism.” So what ? Has the NYT ever indicated that they need to build their Subscription readership ? 4) Should everything done by the Executive branch be reviewed by the FULL Congress ? by the press, particularly the NYT ? What’s the purpose of the Intelligence Committees ?, Of the select Intelligence Committees ? Are you aware of anyone on the select Committees who wasn’t briefed ? Does Jay Rockerfeller get a free pass because he is a liberal, and everyone knows he’s got his heart in the right place. 5) Does the NYT and the press in general have privileges that override the Executive branch ? The select Intelligence Committees ? the National Security requirements ? PLEASE EXPLAIN ! 6) Have any of you actually read the Constitution ?

Posted by Frank H. Scammell on July 2, 2006 9:37 PM

Robin, ever actually the privacy notifications that come with your credit card statements, bank statements, and well just about anything else that is related to finance. See the Gramm-Leach-Billey Act.

Posted by Dave on July 3, 2006 3:09 PM

What seems to be missing from all of this is the apparent not-so-hidden agenda of the press to print anything that could discredit the Bush administration. Everything else is simple white noise intended to coverup their real intent.

Posted by docdave on July 3, 2006 5:20 PM
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